>> how did she answer that, steve? >> i mean, you know, she was very -- she would say you would have to admire him for his guts and courage, you know? she took a really light-hearted view of it. i mean, like they say, you know, their daughter is not there yet. my daughter is 15, you know. she had her first boy guest over with a group of girls, you know, group of girls and guys came over to the house this past labor day, so, i mean, it's something we all got to face eventually. i hated the boy. >> well, you are going to hate the boy. i mean, obviously. tell us a little bit about -- >> automatically. >> yes, automatically. tell us what she talked about in terms of the things that she would like people to know. clearly, it was challenging back four years ago. there were a lot of questions about, you know, the priests, reverend wright and all this. now people know the family. they're in the white house. what did she really want to convey in your interview? >> i mean, you know, i thought she was trying to get -- and i thoug